Do our $$$$$ Escalade's not have an integrated brake controller?

[05alive]

Not too big, no clue on the weight but it's not too big, it's not squatting the truck, it's just wide and sloppy because of the pintle.

 

[yates ™]

Not sure on your connection as the pic is small but typically a decent sized enclose is a bit much for a 1/2 ton to handle and is better suited for a large truck, at least

When I moved a few summers ago I pulled an enclosed (18' or 20', can't remember for sure) and my truck did just fine in town, mind you it wasn't loaded all that heavy with common house moving things, but I wouldn't have wanted to venture on the highway too far with it. I know people do but I wouldn't. I have pulled the same trailer with a 1-ton dually and couldn't even tell it was there.

Another example is I had 99 Grand Cheerokee V8 a while back and my cousin called me on short notice to pick up his 20' boat from storage and take it to his hose which was about 30-40 minutes away. The Jeep had plenty of power and not much squat but that boat through the short and narrow Jeep all over the place.

 

[Vector]

Personally, when towning something that large, or any trailer that requires electric brakes, i would not trust a wireless setup. It may be fine and work well but not for me.

That is a legit point, however if the wireless connection is lost the module still retains the last setting, so the brakes will still apply, all be it not with a manual lock up (if that is what you'd be able to do in an emergency situation.

Don't get me wrong, as I am not sold on the system, but it seems fairly plug and play, and could be moved from trailer to trailer if needed. More importantly, if you wanted to use a different tow vehicle, the remote can be used in the other vehicle to tow the trailer with the module attached.

 

[Vector]

DNW to tow with an escalade.

Towed with the 15 Denali and swore off ever towing anything bigger than a small landscape trailer ever again without a truck. The slop in the pintle smashed the truck around, the mirrors aren't tows so I couldn't see around the trailer, and all in all it wasn't comfortable. It squatted like crazy.

If you can afford a 75k+ truck and need to tow heavy they assume you can afford at least an older 3/4 or 1 ton truck to pull the trailer around.

That's why my father got rid of his SUV and bought a SD. He found himself having to go places and put it in 4wd or needed to pull a trailer and couldn't with his 1/2 ton SUV, and didn't want to beat the truck up doing something it wasn't supposed to do.

My experience has been the opposite of what you describe. My 2007 Sub towed a 28 foot trailer with a decent load. There was no squatting (like I experienced with a rented Ford Expedition) as the Sub was very level. Heck if anything, it was a little too high.

Now I will grant you that towing with a 5th wheel or a diesel dually while towing is better than an SUV, however they are all truck frames/engines with a different cab construction. Thus the engineers of our Escalades should have assumed at least some of us intended to use them for more than bling rides, limo Uber service, or family transport.

 

[thirdcoast]

I think that you are all missing what he is saying about that little trailer..

He is trying to tow it with a Pintle Hitch, not on a ball that is solid with the platform hitch.. The tow rating is generated using the vehicle as well as the method of attaching the trailer to the vehicle.

Our vehicles have a Platform Hitch that is affixed to the frame.. A Pintle hitch is basically two round shackles hooked together and have a lot of movement (slop) and a pintle is not designed to be used with a light duty vehicle!!

I have been towing everything you can think of for over 40 years and have never had the trailer get away from me or had the tow vehicle get tossed around by the trailer.. primarily because I know what equipment I need and which tow vehicle I need and try to stay within those limits.

My new 2018 Tahoe has a 8600 tow rating and I will tell you now that I will be pulling a 18 ft. trailer with brakes and one of my IH Scouts on it..

My tow rig that I used from 07 until I sold my business last year was a GMC Sierra CC, SB, Vortec Max with Bilstein shocks, trailer brake controller and proper tires,.,. I carried 3-6K on a normal load and up to 8000 lbs when I had to..

Right equipment equals safe trip!!

Good luck,

Thirdcoast

 

[PG01]

I think that you are all missing what he is saying about that little trailer..

He is trying to tow it with a Pintle Hitch, not on a ball that is solid with the platform hitch.. The tow rating is generated using the vehicle as well as the method of attaching the trailer to the vehicle.

Our vehicles have a Platform Hitch that is affixed to the frame.. A Pintle hitch is basically two round shackles hooked together and have a lot of movement (slop) and a pintle is not designed to be used with a light duty vehicle!!

I have been towing everything you can think of for over 40 years and have never had the trailer get away from me or had the tow vehicle get tossed around by the trailer.. primarily because I know what equipment I need and which tow vehicle I need and try to stay within those limits.

My new 2018 Tahoe has a 8600 tow rating and I will tell you now that I will be pulling a 18 ft. trailer with brakes and one of my IH Scouts on it..

My tow rig that I used from 07 until I sold my business last year was a GMC Sierra CC, SB, Vortec Max with Bilstein shocks, trailer brake controller and proper tires,.,. I carried 3-6K on a normal load and up to 8000 lbs when I had to..

Right equipment equals safe trip!!

Good luck,

Thirdcoast

I saw it and ignored it....lol. I use pintles at work daily and know what they feel like....lol

 

[yates ™]

I think that you are all missing what he is saying about that little trailer..

He is trying to tow it with a Pintle Hitch, not on a ball that is solid with the platform hitch.. The tow rating is generated using the vehicle as well as the method of attaching the trailer to the vehicle.

Our vehicles have a Platform Hitch that is affixed to the frame.. A Pintle hitch is basically two round shackles hooked together and have a lot of movement (slop) and a pintle is not designed to be used with a light duty vehicle!!

I have been towing everything you can think of for over 40 years and have never had the trailer get away from me or had the tow vehicle get tossed around by the trailer.. primarily because I know what equipment I need and which tow vehicle I need and try to stay within those limits.

My new 2018 Tahoe has a 8600 tow rating and I will tell you now that I will be pulling a 18 ft. trailer with brakes and one of my IH Scouts on it..

My tow rig that I used from 07 until I sold my business last year was a GMC Sierra CC, SB, Vortec Max with Bilstein shocks, trailer brake controller and proper tires,.,. I carried 3-6K on a normal load and up to 8000 lbs when I had to..

Right equipment equals safe trip!!

Good luck,

Thirdcoast

I didn't ignore it and stated that there is plenty of trailers I would pull with an Escalade that are larger than a landscaping trailer.

 

[GTNator]

I think Denalis all come with a brake controller, correct or no?


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[PG01]

I think Denalis all come with a brake controller, correct or no?


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Its an option. Comes with ‘heavy duty towing pkg’ K5L or i think someone said ‘stand alone opt’ JL1 which doesnt make sense because if you have the brake controller you should have upgraded cooling etc....

 

[swathdiver]

In a GMT900 SUV one could have K5L without JL1 but not the other way around. The JL1 has it's own DIC messages and modules for troubleshooting. GM says the factory JL1 cannot be added later (probably because they don't want to change/flash the BCM) but the wiring for aftermarket trailer brake controllers, with or without JL1 is provided on both the GMT900 and the new K2s.