avalonandl
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The IRS is very prominent from the rear.
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That mid cycle refresh 4 years ago was on a vehicle that was last redesigned over 12 years ago. It feels newer than your premier because that’s a design that came out over 6 years ago and wasn’t refreshed. They are both dated. Either way, all that matters is that you like it.It got a pretty substantial refresh for 2016 and it definitely feels newer than my 18 premier did. But its a Toyota so its always going to be a little behind in some ways. I am enjoying the refinement and build quality. Worth every penny for me at this point.
Everything on the market is old. MDX, Grand Cherokee, GX, LX, Sequoia, 4Runner, QX80, Pathfinder, even the Range Rovers are getting long in the tooth. Yet the GM suvs feel just as old. Didn't help that I was continously having issues with mine and I couldn't take the Mexican haywagon ride anymore. A new LX for 2021 or 2022, idk I have read conflicting things. I only keep a vehicle for 6-36 months so I'm not worried about a redesign.That mid cycle refresh 4 years ago was on a vehicle that was last redesigned over 12 years ago. It feels newer than your premier because that’s a design that came out over 6 years ago and wasn’t refreshed. They are both dated. Either way, all that matters is that you like it.
I believe there is a full redesign coming for 2021 model year?
Agree!I’m liking the exhaust.
Lol. I hear you on the ride. New rovers and lx come out this year and expy/Navigator are “only” 3 years old but you’re right, there isn’t anything that’s “new” except for the MB GL (which is pretty awesome) The sequoia/land cruiser/LX are just really ready for a redesign.Everything on the market is old. MDX, Grand Cherokee, GX, LX, Sequoia, 4Runner, QX80, Pathfinder, even the Range Rovers are getting long in the tooth. Yet the GM suvs feel just as old. Didn't help that I was continously having issues with mine and I couldn't take the Mexican haywagon ride anymore. A new LX for 2021 or 2022, idk I have read conflicting things. I only keep a vehicle for 6-36 months so I'm not worried about a redesign.
They get 17/23. My 2018 suburban was 16/23. The 6 cylinders don't help them at all and they're only besting the burbs city because they have start/stop. So really the new GMs dropping 3 mpg is really disappointing. But only real world testing will tell i guess.Best competitor to GM large SUV’s is Ford Expedition. They show good mpg but since they got 6 cylinders engine with turbos.