Redfish5050
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I just bought a 2016 Tahoe with 80k miles. The AFM is easy and simple to overcome in any vehicle. Go to RangeTechnology.com or HollyPerformance.com.Hello all,
I'm in the market to upgrade my current daily, a 05 Highlander with either a 800 or 900 Yukon Denali/SLT though unsure which would be better overall for reliability and dependability. While I'm not scared to buy a higher mileage one with good service records and am aware that typically with higher mileage ones I'll be looking at expensive repairs (suspension, timing chain, control arms, etc) I'm unsure which generation would be better. One issue that I'll run into with either vehicle would be northeastern rusting issues and also navigating it through NY streets but I'll adapt. I do drive around 12-14k miles a year and would love a big cruiser on the highway. I am somewhat mechanically inclined and can wrench on some basic things.
GMT800: Definitely the more basic of the two generations though the suspect nature of the 4L65 leaves much to be desired of. Typically more higher mileage and more likely to run across beaten up examples than relatively clean. That being said, I do have a soft spot for this generation. One pro of this generation would be not having AFM.
GMT900: Much more luxury focus with so much more amenities than the 800 (backup cam, heated/ventilated seats, higher quality interior). The 6L80 isn't that bad (?) at least compared to the 4L65 which isn't saying much. But the big boogy man of this generation is the introduction of AFM which GM ruined a perfectly bulletproof, stout and workhorse engine to a lifter waiting to collapse (damn you EPA). Could find cleaner examples though but at a much higher premium. While I am aware there are tunes/chips that disable the AFM, I have heard the lifters do have a potential to fail.
Thoughts/opinions/advice?
The 6L80 transmission is definitely a liability. When you test drive the vehicle, put it in trailer tow mode at the end of the drive to check the transmission temperature. If it’s up around 190°, not good, but you can still go ahead and replace the transmission thermostat with GM’s new 150° version.
My transmission was shuttering around 40-50 mph consistently. Found a good old rebuild shop, and did a full rebuild which included miscellaneous upgrade kits. They said high temps deteriorate a transmission, but kept reiterating that the AFM is equally harmful to the transmission fluid pump.
Also, consider a Catch Can since either vehicle will be a GDI (gasoline direct injection) engine. This will preserve the intake valves. Check out Tracy Lewis, and UPR Products for catch cans.
All of the above is on YouTube. This should put you pretty close to bulletproof. Best of luck to you!