going to carb. need HELP!!!!

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nxtahoe97

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im wanting to switch my 97 5.7l vortec to a carb set up but stuck on how i would get the trans to work with it. anyone know? i love my 4l60e cuz over drive helps with my 4.10gears. a turbo 350 is in my mind but want my 4l60e trans.
 

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You need a transmission controller and various hardware bits to make it work. But just to get it out of the way and be the first to crush your enthusiasm let me say " don't do it".
 

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Why?? Do you somehow think the carb will magically make more power??
 

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I would like to know exactly why your reverting to carburetion? Theres really nothing special about the TBI system...
 

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the carb fixes the bottleneck issue of power with the crappy spider injectors. unless you go to a marine intake with up-sizable injectors to dial up more fuel, you're pretty much maxed out on how much power you can make once you max out your spider injectors. however, there are issues that arise from going to a marine intake as well as far as i think you lose cruise capability, but also have to have it computer tuned everytime you make a change. (i understand some people are savvy at that, and it won't be a recurring cost.) i've talked to several people in the biz (mechanics, machine shop hot rod gear head types, etc) that a vortec long block with a mild cam and flat top pistons, set up properly, would have no problem seeing 400 hp. sucks that they're so lame from the fuel injection system they put in them. there's simply not the headroom to turn up the power in the vortec 5.7's as there is in let's say, the LS motors, because the fuel bottlenecks it down so bad. from a good tune, maybe a CAI, people have gotten like 40+ hp on their LS motors. from what i remember on the 5.7's, a tune has yielded what, like 10? 15? and this isn't turning into a vortec/lsx debate, just saying that if you're not able to put more fuel in, (to a point, mind you) you can't make more power. i know that a lot of people look at going back to carb like it's going back in time, may as well put wagon wheels on your car, etc., but carb will make more power in this particular application because it's able to deliver more fuel. and the nitpickers will say, oh well a tune on my 5.7 does increase the fuel, yada yada, but the small poppet injectors we have on our 5.7's just won't keep up with removable, upgradable, externally mounted injectors. hence the reason people who try to make big power with the vortec 5.7 and keep fuel injection go with the marine intake, because of the ability to make injector changes easily.
 

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I believe the replacement spider may open possibilities to upgrade them since they are no longer mounted in the main body. Does anybody know of a good info source on Identifying injectors with tech data dimension and what not by numbers etched on them?
 

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man, it may be a long shot, but i think it could be POSSIBLE to tune out the engine portion of the pcm and use it for stand alone tranny control. i'm not exactly sure what all the tranny needs to operate, you may need a throttle position input, which, well, hang on.

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145089

still looking for others, this should get you started

I remember that, Mykk did a pretty good job on that build. Thats when I was all for being different. Which I still am but not with the terrible fuel system on our trucks.

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carb will make more power in this particular application because it's able to deliver more fuel.
This is true. The factory and replacement spides are only capabe of roughly 400. Heck someone had a marine swapped boosted L31 vortec with other mods and it only made 350+- (Dont quote me on that, I dont remember exactly how much). He ended up swapping an LS based motor after that.

My personal opinion, do what you want, period. If you want to go carbed, go carbed. These type of threads typically turn into a bash fest, whether its against going carbed or going LS based.
 

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