How Google will cash in on your commute - WHat data is being reported

[Tonyrodz]

I blame it all on the Russians

NYET!

 

[Denali4181]

 

[Rocket Man]

First thing Ill do if I buy a new vehicle is disable the onstar antenna. I don’t use rewards cards at stores, and no speakers listening to me in my house. I remember feeling creepy when Microsoft’s XBox came out with the camera that watched you.

 

[drakon543]

First thing Ill do if I buy a new vehicle is disable the onstar antenna. I don’t use rewards cards at stores, and no speakers listening to me in my house. I remember feeling creepy when Microsoft’s XBox came out with the camera that watched you.

i loved my xbox camera with voice control. i used to scream commands at it to see what it would do. the creepiest was when i was annoyed at it for one reason or another so i told it to blow itself up. the loading circle spun for almost a solid minute before giving up.

 

[Rocket Man]

i loved my xbox camera with voice control. i used to scream commands at it to see what it would do. the creepiest was when i was annoyed at it for one reason or another so i told it to blow itself up. the loading circle spun for almost a solid minute before giving up.

They were watching you.

 

[HiHoeSilver]

i loved my xbox camera with voice control. i used to scream commands at it to see what it would do. the creepiest was when i was annoyed at it for one reason or another so i told it to blow itself up. the loading circle spun for almost a solid minute before giving up.

Easiest way to blow up an Xbox was to plug it in and turn it on.

 

[Sean James]

I work for a fleet trucking company. In April 2018 All Commercial Vehicles were REQUIRED to have ELD's (electronic logging devices) by the Federal Government. No more Paper Log Books for Truckers. It just came out this week that many large trucking companies are Selling their Drivers Data to Big Tech companies. Drivers are pissed. These tech companies know when you log in, start your shift, when and where you stop, and when you go home, every work day. And newer Commercial trucks log EVERYTHING! There are close to 100 modules in the newer trucks that record every little thing. They know if your seat belt is buckled, how hard you use the brakes, how hard you accelerate, if you are using the cruise control, going over the speed limit, make a turn too tight, even when and if you use your turn signal, wipers, heater or A/C.

There are steering angle sensors, hard braking event sensors, roll control sensors, accelerometers, and gps tells the computer if your are climbing a grade or descending a hill in conjunction with inclineometers seat belt sensors (you know when the vehicle beeps if you don't buckle up, well that's tied into the body control module). The computers record RPM, MPH, Engine Temp, Oil pressure and temp, turbo boost, gear selection, trans temp, axles temp, all fluid levels, wheel speed sensors, traction control, and brake air pressure. You name it, the new trucks record it. And I wont get started on the front facing (watching the road ahead), and REAR facing camera's that watch the drivers face and hands, with audio recording, and video snapshots of the driver and cab when an event is triggered, or when management (and now tech companies) feel like watching you as you drive down the highway.

We had a dozen or so drivers quit, (old-timers that were the best drivers we had) when the ELD's were first required by the U.S. DOT last year. But we had 48 drivers quit when the Rear Facing Cameras were first installed last December. Not all trucking companies do this, and it is not a requirement. We have since disabled or removed the rear facing cameras, since drivers were putting tape over the cameras anyways. A few got fired at first for taping over the camera lens, but we could not afford to lose any more drivers.

The Federal Government has removed ALL leeway for drivers with the new regulations. They can't stop to take piss on the side of the road without logging it on their ELD's. No more breaks at the favorite diner for some decent food. If they are 15 miles from their pick-up or delivery point and they run out of hours, they are DONE! They must stop and take their Federally REQUIRED 10 hour off-duty / sleeper break and lose a whole days pay. If they don't, they can be terminated for cause, or the next scale-house they get pulled into can fine them $500-$1000 and shut them down for 10 hours, plus the company can be fined in addition to the driver during a Bi-annual Audit.

The ELD's know when you stop for fuel, it must be logged. You must stop for a 1/2 break before or at 8 hours of driving time, even if you don't want a 1/2 hour break, sitting on the side of some desolate highway because your timer said you could not make it to the next truck stop to get a greasy hot dog and bag of doritos for dinner, the same dinner you had the day before. Many drivers are forced to do this because you want to make your fuel stop and your 1/2 break at the same stop, because 2 or 3 off-ramps and on-ramps takes time off of your timer, and you are losing money every time you stop.

No more tearing a page out of your logbook, and just re-doing it to be compliant for the next scale-house officer. No more re-doing your paper log book because you spent 4 hours in bumper-to-bumper traffic averaging $1.50 an hour. No more backing up your log book because you stopped at Denny's to get a real meal a couple of times a week. Or spent an hour grabbing a shower, and talking to another trucker for 20 minutes, because you haven't talked to a real person in 4 days.

And now they are selling our truckers information to big tech companies? "If your not doing anything wrong who cares" ??

That's not the point, we are American's, we have "The right of the People to be secure in our Persons, Houses, Papers, and Effects, against unreasonable Searches and Seizures". Well, many of us still believe this is an unreasonable search and seizure of our information, our privacy, and our Freedom. And personally knowing dozens of truck drivers, I know that they are a freedom loving, and privacy respecting segment of our Society, that's why they do this unforgiving job. Being scrutinized by Law Enforcement every day. Fighting Wind, Snow, Ice, and car drivers that are texting, stoned, or otherwise impaired. Endless road construction, bumper to bumper traffic for hours on end, and the new generation of drivers that believe that "adaptive cruise" is so they can dick around with their phone while driving on the Highway.

Truckers now are not only being tracked by the Feds and their employers, but by unknown entities, for unknown reasons, and I am strictly against it. Unfortunately we crossed that bridge a long time ago and there is no going back.

 

[BG1988]

I think it was Illinois... that recently changed the cost of renewing the registration of an electric vehicle to $1,000 because the state was missing out on all the taxes from the fuel those drivers weren't buying. California is at almost a dollar per gallon fuel tax. They'll happily sell you more fuel and tax it, and then ticket you when you were driving too fast and then punish you for burning said fuel with a gas guzzler tax.

EPA classifies my as a non gas guzzler

but I could guzzle gas at 9mpg if I wanted to do so

 

[Rocket Man]

I work for a fleet trucking company. In April 2018 All Commercial Vehicles were REQUIRED to have ELD's (electronic logging devices) by the Federal Government. No more Paper Log Books for Truckers. It just came out this week that many large trucking companies are Selling their Drivers Data to Big Tech companies. Drivers are pissed. These tech companies know when you log in, start your shift, when and where you stop, and when you go home, every work day. And newer Commercial trucks log EVERYTHING! There are close to 100 modules in the newer trucks that record every little thing. They know if your seat belt is buckled, how hard you use the brakes, how hard you accelerate, if you are using the cruise control, going over the speed limit, make a turn too tight, even when and if you use your turn signal, wipers, heater or A/C.

There are steering angle sensors, hard braking event sensors, roll control sensors, accelerometers, and gps tells the computer if your are climbing a grade or descending a hill in conjunction with inclineometers seat belt sensors (you know when the vehicle beeps if you don't buckle up, well that's tied into the body control module). The computers record RPM, MPH, Engine Temp, Oil pressure and temp, turbo boost, gear selection, trans temp, axles temp, all fluid levels, wheel speed sensors, traction control, and brake air pressure. You name it, the new trucks record it. And I wont get started on the front facing (watching the road ahead), and REAR facing camera's that watch the drivers face and hands, with audio recording, and video snapshots of the driver and cab when an event is triggered, or when management (and now tech companies) feel like watching you as you drive down the highway.

We had a dozen or so drivers quit, (old-timers that were the best drivers we had) when the ELD's were first required by the U.S. DOT last year. But we had 48 drivers quit when the Rear Facing Cameras were first installed last December. Not all trucking companies do this, and it is not a requirement. We have since disabled or removed the rear facing cameras, since drivers were putting tape over the cameras anyways. A few got fired at first for taping over the camera lens, but we could not afford to lose any more drivers.

The Federal Government has removed ALL leeway for drivers with the new regulations. They can't stop to take piss on the side of the road without logging it on their ELD's. No more breaks at the favorite diner for some decent food. If they are 15 miles from their pick-up or delivery point and they run out of hours, they are DONE! They must stop and take their Federally REQUIRED 10 hour off-duty / sleeper break and lose a whole days pay. If they don't, they can be terminated for cause, or the next scale-house they get pulled into can fine them $500-$1000 and shut them down for 10 hours, plus the company can be fined in addition to the driver during a Bi-annual Audit.

The ELD's know when you stop for fuel, it must be logged. You must stop for a 1/2 break before or at 8 hours of driving time, even if you don't want a 1/2 hour break, sitting on the side of some desolate highway because your timer said you could not make it to the next truck stop to get a greasy hot dog and bag of doritos for dinner, the same dinner you had the day before. Many drivers are forced to do this because you want to make your fuel stop and your 1/2 break at the same stop, because 2 or 3 off-ramps and on-ramps takes time off of your timer, and you are losing money every time you stop.

No more tearing a page out of your logbook, and just re-doing it to be compliant for the next scale-house officer. No more re-doing your paper log book because you spent 4 hours in bumper-to-bumper traffic averaging $1.50 an hour. No more backing up your log book because you stopped at Denny's to get a real meal a couple of times a week. Or spent an hour grabbing a shower, and talking to another trucker for 20 minutes, because you haven't talked to a real person in 4 days.

And now they are selling our truckers information to big tech companies? "If your not doing anything wrong who cares" ??

That's not the point, we are American's, we have "The right of the People to be secure in our Persons, Houses, Papers, and Effects, against unreasonable Searches and Seizures". Well, many of us still believe this is an unreasonable search and seizure of our information, our privacy, and our Freedom. And personally knowing dozens of truck drivers, I know that they are a freedom loving, and privacy respecting segment of our Society, that's why they do this unforgiving job. Being scrutinized by Law Enforcement every day. Fighting Wind, Snow, Ice, and car drivers that are texting, stoned, or otherwise impaired. Endless road construction, bumper to bumper traffic for hours on end, and the new generation of drivers that believe that "adaptive cruise" is so they can dick around with their phone while driving on the Highway.

Truckers now are not only being tracked by the Feds and their employers, but by unknown entities, for unknown reasons, and I am strictly against it. Unfortunately we crossed that bridge a long time ago and there is no going back.

I’m sorry to hear that my man.

 

[dbbd1]

First thing Ill do if I buy a new vehicle is disable the onstar antenna. I don’t use rewards cards at stores, and no speakers listening to me in my house. I remember feeling creepy when Microsoft’s XBox came out with the camera that watched you.

How did you do this on the 2015+?

Thanks