Let's sift through every square inch of a 2013 Tahoe PPV

[iamdub]

Oh, okay. I think I read that it turns back on after 35 mph.

Interesting. I never knew what the parameters were for that. Now I gotta research it to see if it's 35 mph vehicle speed (as best as it can detect) or wheel speed. Neither is very much but 35 mph rear wheel speed is really low.

 

[Caddylack]

Well, I finally did my exhaust.

I went with a Cherry Bomb "Salute" muffler, and a 2.75" to dual 3.5" polished tip.

The muffler is not one that I'm familiar with, but it seemed fitting for my application. It's 2.75" in/out, straight through with the correct offset, and it's 409 stainless. For under $40, why not?

I'm very happy with the sound. It's much quieter than expected, but that's perfect for a daily. I left the factory resonator, because I was concerned about potential drone. At idle, it sounds basically stock. At WOT, it reminds me of an old muscle car. Zero drone.

Oh, about that resonator. It meant enough to me that I compromised on the location of the tip. The shop initially told me that the resonator would have to be removed, because the tip would stick out too far. I told them to just cut off as much tailpipe as they could and try to make it work. It looks a little bit awkward, but I am okay with it for now.

 

[iamdub]

Well, I finally did my exhaust.

I went with a Cherry Bomb "Salute" muffler, and a 2.75" to dual 3.5" polished tip.

The muffler is not one that I'm familiar with, but it seemed fitting for my application. It's 2.75" in/out, straight through with the correct offset, and it's 409 stainless. For under $40, why not?

I'm very happy with the sound. It's much quieter than expected, but that's perfect for a daily. I left the factory resonator, because I was concerned about potential drone. At idle, it sounds basically stock. At WOT, it reminds me of an old muscle car. Zero drone.

Oh, about that resonator. It meant enough to me that I compromised on the location of the tip. The shop initially told me that the resonator would have to be removed, because the tip would stick out too far. I told them to just cut off as much tailpipe as they could and try to make it work. It looks a little bit awkward, but I am okay with it for now.

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Had to look up that "Salute" line. Never heard of it. It's the same construction as the AP Xlerator that is a "Magnaflow Clone". AP's part numbers are very similar to Magnaflow and I see Cherry Bomb's part numbers are similar to AP's. I have the AP Xlerator XS1259: 18" body length, 4"x9" oval body dimensions, 3" center and offset connections, 409 stainless, wool and fiber packed around a perforated core, etc. The Cherry Bomb SA1259 is identical. I'm sure they're all from the same factory. Do you know the body length of the one you got?

Also, have no fears of losing the resonator. You won't notice anything. And that muffler will sound better over the next thousand miles or so. I had the same impression- stock-ish at idle, mild rumble during normal driving and wild growl at WOT/high RPM. Drop your right rear window and floor it next time you're next to a concrete retaining wall.


My documentation: https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/growing-up-doesnt-have-to-suck.93510/post-1282110

A year later: https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/growing-up-doesnt-have-to-suck.93510/post-1384358


XS1259: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aph-xs1259

SA1259: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/imm-sa1259

Even Summit uses the same photos for the two brands.

 

[Caddylack]

Had to look up that "Salute" line. Never heard of it. It's the same construction as the AP Xlerator that is a "Magnaflow Clone". AP's part numbers are very similar to Magnaflow and I see Cherry Bomb's part numbers are similar to AP's. I have the AP Xlerator XS1259: 18" body length, 4"x9" oval body dimensions, 3" center and offset connections, 409 stainless, wool and fiber packed around a perforated core, etc. The Cherry Bomb SA1259 is identical. I'm sure they're all from the same factory. Do you know the body length of the one you got?

Also, have no fears of losing the resonator. You won't notice anything. And that muffler will sound better over the next thousand miles or so. I had the same impression- stock-ish at idle, mild rumble during normal driving and wild growl at WOT/high RPM. Drop your right rear window and floor it next time you're next to a concrete retaining wall.


My documentation: https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/growing-up-doesnt-have-to-suck.93510/post-1282110

A year later: https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/threads/growing-up-doesnt-have-to-suck.93510/post-1384358


XS1259: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aph-xs1259

SA1259: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/imm-sa1259

Even Summit uses the same photos for the two brands.

Wow! Good detective work.

Mine is a 14" case, and I may be misremembering the inlet/outlet size. I'm not seeing 2.75" on Summit, so it is probably 3".

I'm pretty sure it's SA1229: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/imm-sa1229

 

[Caddylack]

Okay... How bout some suspension tech?

It seems as though the front struts are physically interchangeable from 2007-2020, although the specs are not identical. Monroe makes a PPV strut for 07-14, and then another for 15-20.

According to Rock Auto, this is the situation:

07-14 Monroe part # 39106
Extended length: 18.050 in
Compressed length: 14.510 in
Travel length: 3.540 in

15-20 Monroe part # 39140
Extended length: 17.120 in
Compressed length: 13.890 in
Travel length: 3.230 in

What does this mean once mounted on the vehicle? Can you use either pair of coil springs?

 

[Caddylack]

More on wheels:

The current generation PPV has 20" stock police wheels. I'm sure they aren't cheap or easy to find, though.

The Nissan Armada, which shares our bolt pattern, came with a 20" spare. I can get these from the junkyard for nothing, but it will require some patience.

I wouldn't mind running staggered 20s and 22s, if it happened to be convenient. Maybe 2 transport wheels and 2 Armada spares.

 

[Tonyrodz]

More on wheels:

The current generation PPV has 20" stock police wheels. I'm sure they aren't cheap or easy to find, though.

The Nissan Armada, which shares our bolt pattern, came with a 20" spare. I can get these from the junkyard for nothing, but it will require some patience.

I wouldn't mind running staggered 20s and 22s, if it happened to be convenient. Maybe 2 transport wheels and 2 Armada spares.

What do the Armada spares look like? Newer or older models?

 

[Caddylack]

What do the Armada spares look like? Newer or older models?

Black steelies.

I don't think the year matters, but you just have to verify 18" vs 20", since those were the two sizes Nissan used for the spares.

 

[Caddylack]

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[iamdub]

Wow! Good detective work.

Mine is a 14" case, and I may be misremembering the inlet/outlet size. I'm not seeing 2.75" on Summit, so it is probably 3".

I'm pretty sure it's SA1229: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/imm-sa1229

I figured you meant 3" cuz 2.75" isn't an option as it's sort of an oddball size, especially for the aftermarket gradients. Our stock 2.75" pipe is, conveniently, a nice fit into the 3" muffler I/O, leaving an easy 1/8" gap to weld. Yup, there's our twin part numbers again- SA1229 and XS1229.

I was always happy to find the AP Xlerator mufflers cuz they were nearly clones of the much pricier Magnaflows. These Cherry Bomb Salute mufflers are the exact same as the APs and a few bucks cheaper still.

These style of mufflers all tend to have the same general sound and the volume changes by the case length. I thought an 18" would be about the comfort limit for a daily driver. Good to know the 14" isn't too loud. However, if you ever lose your cats, just know it'll be LOUD. I learned that the hard way.