To each his own obviously. To be fair Monroe has at least 3 levels of shocks. Not sure what others ran and had such a bad experience but i will stand behind my recommendation on the "Reflex". No there not Bilstiens but they are a great shock for the money. They tame my 35's and some mild off-roading just fine. For me they fit the bill as good shock to ride before i complete the SAS. just my o2...good luck on your decision.