OFFICIAL: 2015.5 (2015i) Discussion Thread

[zolt11]

Motorwerks every negative forum post here about 2015 vs 2015i is either started by you or continually bumped up by you. I hope that when you get your 2015i you are just as happy as us 2015 reg discounted owners are with theirs. I am thrilled with my Denali and personally am coming from a nissan murano and am thrilled with my discontinued 2015 gmc truck. Don't forget the 16's are around the corner and then they will discontinue discount your 2015i. Its the way it works. We all know that. Nobody needs a know it all reminding us. There will always be something newer and better. I get it, you are excited for your new sweet ride. So are the majority of owners here with the discontinued old school 2015 gms. We don't need constant reminders of how "out of date", "discontined", or now "discounted" our new trucks are. Get a truck and enjoy it period. The differences to me are def an upgrade but nothing I care to much about. The wireless charger is behind the nav screen making it obsolete. Foot wave is cool but there is literally 3 ways to open trunk now, and the new 8 speed will be nice improvement but I am not racing my truck and the 6 speed has done a great job through the 1st 8000 miles on the truck. No complaints, on work commute, family road trips or driving the family around town on the weekends.

 

[George C]

C'mon Brian.
No need to be so offended. Satish didn't say one thing offensive. He is simply pointing out the market in his area, and I think his post was 100% accurate.

Things change, and those changes are exciting. And yes, the 16' the 17' and so on, are coming. They will be talked about and I don't see anything offensive about it.
This forum is about new and improved products, and I expect more and more raves about the i are to come. If you can't handle it, I suggest not reading the thread and getting all negative on us.

I am excited about the i, although I would rather have had my 2015 built and delivered, especially since my order was placed back in February. February.....and the truck still isn't in my hands, so I cancelled it for the updated rig that I probably won't see until spring.

But since it wasn't built, and GM hung our orders up, I'm thrilled with the new options, some rather major. Especially gratifying is the game changing transmission, and I look at it as some sort of reward for being shut out for the year. When I do get it, expect me to be thrilled that it doesn't have the six speed, which I feel is impossible to drive at speed on hilly terrain in our weak Tahoe without constantly shifting out of OD.
I am definitely looking forward...
When the 16' MY improvements are announced, don't look for me to be offended...

 

[motorwerks]

Wow! I asked regarding a trend in pricing... I mentioned that it was SURPRISING that dealers were giving reasons for the discounts.

Rather, I got an ear ringing from someone with an inferiority complex. No one is belittling the 2015 here...

Thank you George for the support and clarification for the dubious

 

[zolt11]

Enjoy your new truck. Looking forward to hearing the reviews.

 

[Tylus]

Motorwerks every negative forum post here about 2015 vs 2015i is either started by you or continually bumped up by you. I hope that when you get your 2015i you are just as happy as us 2015 reg discounted owners are with theirs. I am thrilled with my Denali and personally am coming from a nissan murano and am thrilled with my discontinued 2015 gmc truck. Don't forget the 16's are around the corner and then they will discontinue discount your 2015i. Its the way it works. We all know that. Nobody needs a know it all reminding us. There will always be something newer and better. I get it, you are excited for your new sweet ride. So are the majority of owners here with the discontinued old school 2015 gms. We don't need constant reminders of how "out of date", "discontined", or now "discounted" our new trucks are. Get a truck and enjoy it period. The differences to me are def an upgrade but nothing I care to much about. The wireless charger is behind the nav screen making it obsolete. Foot wave is cool but there is literally 3 ways to open trunk now, and the new 8 speed will be nice improvement but I am not racing my truck and the 6 speed has done a great job through the 1st 8000 miles on the truck. No complaints, on work commute, family road trips or driving the family around town on the weekends.

thang god I'm not the only one who is tired of the constant 2015 bashing by this guy.

didn't he take a $3,000 loss to sell his brand new 2015? just to get a few gadjits and gizmo's on the 2015i that will be replaced by the 2016 models in <6 months

Wow! I asked regarding a trend in pricing... I mentioned that it was SURPRISING that dealers were giving reasons for the discounts.

Rather, I got an ear ringing from someone with an inferiority complex. No one is belittling the 2015 here...

Thank you George for the support and clarification for the dubious

2015 models are still going for full price out here. Dealerships aren't letting a single one go for under MSRP. Supply and Demand at work. When I bought mine back in June I paid $4k under MSRP using the GM Military Pricing program. They stopped offering that program for now. And you'd better believe that each one that drives off the lot is at/or above MSRP pricing. They're the hot commodity of the moment for SUV's

Also keep in mind that not many people buy the Denali/Esky vs. those who buy the LS/LT models. Not many people even know about the 2015i model roll-out. Most everybody is just happy to get the 2015 model with it's relatively "all new" features vs the 2014 models. Just cracked 1400 miles in my LS and couldn't be happier. Can't understand this whole "Keeping up with the Jones" mentality.

 

[motorwerks]

thang god I'm not the only one who is tired of the constant 2015 bashing by this guy.

didn't he take a $3,000 loss to sell his brand new 2015? just to get a few gadjits and gizmo's on the 2015i that will be replaced by the 2016 models in <6 months


Again, where was there any 2015 bashing may I ask? And no, I'm a vehicle dealer. The cost for me to buy the truck, take it into inventory (I don't pay sales tax nor registration), sell it to a client, sell them an extended warranty, make a $1000 on that warranty, etc. It was nearly negligible....around $670....and I put 1650 miles on that truck...so I consider it a wash. Now I ask...ANYONE on this forum...if you could dump your vehicle for an updated model with zero miles on it for $670 would you do it? I would...and did.

The only people seemingly irritated are well, those who have 2015s and feel that there is actually a "negative" impact for the 8-speed vs. the 6 (truly ignorant with regards to automobile technology)....and those that claim that an 8-speed is no different from the 6 (non-enthusiasts for which I commend them since it takes the entire update scenario out of their purchase equation). Again, as I had stated many times earlier, no one is belittling the 6-speed 2015s per se.

The purpose for the current thread was to discuss that it was surprising to me that dealers are openly disclosing the REASONS for their discounting current inventory. One would think it would only cause reactionary effect by prospective customers to simply wait for an update.

I would think that dealers would simply say, "we're having a sale and want to move inventory" and keep it at that. This was the purpose of the topic.

Now, the sarcasm....well, I never introduced that here. Nor is there any suggestion that the 2015 is an illegitimate vehicle in this post nor any other. Understand? Got it??

BTW, a 2016 will be identical to a 2015i with regards to power train. A 2015i is MUCH more improved vs a 2015 which carries the driveline from the previous generation models. Me personally? I could likely live with minor 2016 updates. However, the 2015i updates are major in comparison.

...and for $670? What a bargain to swap. Nuff said

 

[BirchyBoy]

Motorwerks - I'm curious what you consider bashing? Most users don't make an impression overall, but you come to mind whenever I think about how one person has done nothing much except say how the early 2015 units should be left on the lot. Here are a few posts that I consider bashing:

I mentioned that I took a $1700 loss....but I see it as a $1700 gain since the new truck will be a 2015.5 and have the 8-speed...I'll gain that in resale. Put it this way, if they had an option for 6-speed transmission as standard equipment and 8-speed automatic and 4G/LTE Generation 10 OnStar as a $1700 option package, I would have paid the $1700 extra.

It's not about soccer moms, etc. I will know the difference when I mash the pedal on an 8-Speed Denali with a lower 1st gear ratio, taller rear end ratio, two overdrive gears, etc., etc. It will just be a faster, more responsive, smoother vehicle. How that fares with the general population? Well that's their issue. For me, $1700 to have an 8-speed vehicle for the next 4-5 years vs. an outdated 6-speed unit was worth the move.

....and yes, the 6-speed is 7 year old "old tech" for sure in comparison to the 8-speed unit.

Yawn....Production will begin on 2015.5 updated models 2nd shift October 2014. It's all over every GM bulletin released this week. I got my 2015 Denali in Feb of this year...you guys were still wondering where to order them from.

http://www.autonews.com/article/201...-yukon-denali-with-v-8-to-feature-new-8-speed

It's official and GM OFFICIALLY released the bulletin. ALL 6.2L V8 Yukons, pickups, Corvettes and Escalades get the 8 speed transmission...and get them in the fall. Ever ask yourself why 6.2L orders and production has been constrained lately?

I'm in no hurry and what's a season here or there? An 8-speed Denali is just a better, smoother, and faster vehicle than the current 6-speed with that lazy throttle and prolonged gear holding. 3 years from now, I would've regretted keeping that old 6-speed from 2007-era anyhow.

Yep, I sold my 2015 Yukon Denali and am about to place an order for the 2015.5 Yukon Denali. As confirmed, October production vehicles will have the new 8-speed automatic transmission capable of up to 160 shift instructions per millisecond.

That said, I intend on keeping my truck at least 3-5 years. I DO know that the resale of the "early" 2015's will fall much quicker than the 2015.5 so I figured it would be better to take a slight loss ($1700) and pay for the 8-speed, 4G LTE, later production vehicle vs. the old outdated 6-speed unit. That said, they are estimating MUCH improved throttle response and avoidance of that annoying holding some gears until 4-5k RPM before the shift.

Whatever...the 8-speed Denali will be better than the 6-speed. That's the bottom line. Just drive every other competitors' vehicles with more advanced transmission systems.

Mileage aside, the vehicle's power train will be much more responsive and always be in a better rev band.

It's just going to be a better package.

I thought about keeping mine for a few years; however, there are some people that can't wait for the 2015.5 so I sold mine now knowing that I would get the most I could ever get for my 2015 if I sold it now. The 6-speed 2015 will be worth a lot less in a few years vs. 2015.5...especially when it becomes commonplace about the 8-speed trans, etc in upcoming auto shows this fall and articles reviewing the 8-speed equipped trucks.

I'm glad you're happy that you sold the old one and bought a new one. Enjoy it!

 

[Tylus]

I'm excited about the new changes. It's always neat to see what is coming and what is trending

however

I get tired of you in particular. You have nothing good to say about the 2015 models...well unless you are backtracking to make sure we all "understand" you aren't bashing the 2015's.

We get it. The 2015i model is soo much better that we should all go out and burn our POS 2015's to the ground. Then go drop another $50-75k for the 2015i models. So we can get a different transmission and some gadgets.

Relax man. The 2016's are coming. I've never seen someone get so green with car envy before. Especially over a 1/2 yr model.





also, you should disclaimer that you are a Car Salesman. So no, it is not true or normal that the Dealerships are "freely discussing" cheaper prices, or why they are trying to clearance 2015 inventory (if they even are bothering). You have what we call an "Insider Track". No Dealership worth his salt would reveal to a potential buy something like that. It's the proverbial equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

Reality: "Yes sir, here we have the 2015 Tahoe LS. It's a real steal at only $48,800. That is MSRP pricing and you won't find a better deal around town. The 2015 Tahoe is a all new model from the 2014 models that Chevy redid from the ground up. It has all the latest technological innovations GM could pack into it."

Misconception: "Well Sir, here is this old POS 2015 model. We're selling it cheap to get if off the lot. The 2015i is coming and it's so much better a vehicle that we know nobody will want the outdated and wore out 2015. We're just going to cut our losses now and hope it doesn't hurt too much."​

I've seen Dealerships have cars 2-3 model yrs old on their lots. And they got full price for them. Only an incompetant Dealership will take a loss on the 2015 models. You should know that if you really are a Salesman/Dealer

 

[motorwerks]

With all due respect...each of the responses should be taken within the context that they are written. Some were with regards to the feasibility of financial loss/gain from selling the old one and ordering the new one. Some were with regards to discussing the nature of the upgrades amongst those who felt the upgrades were negligible. Some were with regards to bulletins informing those of us who are ordering or are considering ordering 2015i models. And finally, some were with regards to offering advice to those prospects who were on the fence of either taking delivery immediately, or willing to wait "a season or two" to take delivery of a newer model.

A few members had some issues with their dealer with regards to placing their order for the 2015i. This forum was helpful to those members in facilitating those orders. Other members had availability issues with their territory in ordering a new 2015i. This forum allowed many of us to compare our orders (via PM) to make their process better.

If you're not interested in the 2015i discussions, well, there are several other threads that don't involve such discussions.

However, the result of most of these discussions are only beneficial to prospective customers and enthusiasts who have curiosity and interest.

....that's the intent.

IF you've followed these threads, I DID disclose that I'm a vehicle dealer more than once and amongst the discussions at hand. Moreover, I mentioned that I found it SURPRISING that dealers are openly discussing the discounts.

BTW, don't believe me that dealers are discounting their entire inventory? Go to Lafontaine GMC and check out their entire inventory pricing online.

 

[olyelr]

Seeing how this thread was started to converse about the early 15's and discounting, I will add in my recent experience with this.

Up here in the land of the snowbirds finding a nicely equipped Yukon is near impossible, and it surely wont have any discounts. My wife and I just purchased a well equipped SLT and waited what seamed like an eternity for it to show up. The 22" wheel upgrade didnt help the situation, but regardless, no incentives or rebates at all. The Tahoe's and Burb's are all over on the lots up here, but finding a Yukon is like snagging yourself a nice set of chicken lips.