Projectors

[NathanJax]

I want to try and score the new accord touring headlight projectors. THey are Led projectors.

but I thought... hid projector > led projectors... ?

x2

All the Esky guys like the look of the LED headlights, but say the HID headlights actually produce better light.

If that's what you want then just buy the new Hella bi-led projectors ... a lot easier to retro and a $700 each they're a bargain.

And if you're gonna go for the gold, what's money...

 

[sumo]

Legit Led Lights are Mucho Dinero. They are starting to be offered on cars now. Audi uses them and The Highest 2013 Accord Tourning has them too. I have yet to Do a Pre Delivery Inspection on the new Accord no have not priced a new headlight assembly for one either.

 

[felixgun]

Yea platinum esky's use em too but people who own both say the HID projectors have a greater light output.

 

[blkonblk]

just got a pair of s2000 projectors, danm they were expensive. question can you/should you do quads with s2000? or is that really a waist of $ to have s2000 on high beam since you never use them?? will there be much of a difference when you look at the headlights?

 

[soulsea]

Do NOT put s2ks in the high beams, they are low beam only projectors and you'll have no high beam. Some have toyed around with the idea of inverting them as a high beam but it won't illuminate correctly as a high beam is dispersed a lot differently than a low beam. You'll end up having a very expensive inferior high beam.

ETA: An S2K low beam retro in a Tahoe is as powerful and elegant a retro as one can have, I would add nothing else to it.

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Btw, if you want the best possible halogen high beam to go along with those high end projectors, this is the answer: http://tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44451

 

[blkonblk]

Do NOT put s2ks in the high beams, they are low beam only projectors and you'll have no high beam. Some have toyed around with the idea of inverting them as a high beam but it won't illuminate correctly as a high beam is dispersed a lot differently than a low beam. You'll end up having a very expensive inferior high beam.

ETA: An S2K low beam retro in a Tahoe is as powerful and elegant a retro as one can have, I would add nothing else to it.

---------- Post added at 05:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:25 PM ----------

Btw, if you want the best possible halogen high beam to go along with those high end projectors, this is the answer: http://tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44451

There he is - Serge thanks for your input. I almost got two sets of s2000 . The quad retrofit looks just so danm sexyy though i really want to do it. what other ones do you think would look nice there?

Toshiba bulbs are sweet, but quads is what i'm after.

 

[soulsea]

Okay, here's the thing with quads and why most folks who have them once, especially on an SUV, never do them again.

1. This first one is specific to 07+ Hoes/Burbs/Avys ... there's a vertical structural metal beam behind both the low and high beam reflector bowls. You will barely clear it in the low beam section but there's no projector in the world shallow enough to clear the one behind the high beam bowl. So to get a projector in the inner bowl you have to cut into that frame like this:



Keep in mind that's for an MH1 projector with soft amp bulb connectors, there might be more cutting required to fit any projector with a solid D2S bulb socket.

2. In order to do quads with S2Ks, you'd have to have the S2Ks in the inner bowl and a bi-xenon projector in the outer. I know the MH1 will fit, an FX-R is a mighty tight squeeze ... both of those projectors will likely get dwarfed by the output of the S2K to the degree of being redundant. A RX-350 projector might fit, but no one has done it so I'm not sure ... but all of this is probably moot as I just don't think you can squeeze an S2K in the inner bowl.

3. From an illumination point of view, by doing quads you are accentuating what is an inherent issue with projectors on SUVs, which is too much foreground light. This is because the rake of the beam when aligned properly so that the cutoff doesn't blind surrounding traffic, is more acute as it starts higher up. So already by definition you are sacrificing distance and putting more light right in front of the truck which is less useful. Which leads to the biggest issue ...

4. If you do quads, you are doubling the amount of foreground lighting. The real world consequence of this is that the human eye can't cope with the difference in light intensity between the the lit road and the surrounding darkness. In effect, the pupil compensates for all that light and cannot see anything around it. Not a big issue in an urban lit environment, but if you ever get out to drive in the countryside at night, it can get pretty scary and quite honestly, dangerous. Paradoxically, when I wanted to see better at night I would pull the fuse out of my inner projectors.

I know you want the quad setup, but both for installation and visibility reasons I would advise against it on your vehicle. Keep in mind that a single pair of S2K projectors will already blow my MH1 quad setup out of the water ... adding more light not only adds more parts you have to pay for and can potentially fail, but most importantly, it will not ameliorate your ability to see.

 

[blkonblk]

Okay, here's the thing with quads and why most folks who have them once, especially on an SUV, never do them again.

1. This first one is specific to 07+ Hoes/Burbs/Avys ... there's a vertical structural metal beam behind both the low and high beam reflector bowls. You will barely clear it in the low beam section but there's no projector in the world shallow enough to clear the one behind the high beam bowl. So to get a projector in the inner bowl you have to cut into that frame like this:



Keep in mind that's for an MH1 projector with soft amp bulb connectors, there might be more cutting required to fit any projector with a solid D2S bulb socket.

2. In order to do quads with S2Ks, you'd have to have the S2Ks in the inner bowl and a bi-xenon projector in the outer. I know the MH1 will fit, an FX-R is a mighty tight squeeze ... both of those projectors will likely get dwarfed by the output of the S2K to the degree of being redundant. A RX-350 projector might fit, but no one has done it so I'm not sure ... but all of this is probably moot as I just don't think you can squeeze an S2K in the inner bowl.

3. From an illumination point of view, by doing quads you are accentuating what is an inherent issue with projectors on SUVs, which is too much foreground light. This is because the rake of the beam when aligned properly so that the cutoff doesn't blind surrounding traffic, is more acute as it starts higher up. So already by definition you are sacrificing distance and putting more light right in front of the truck which is less useful. Which leads to the biggest issue ...

4. If you do quads, you are doubling the amount of foreground lighting. The real world consequence of this is that the human eye can't cope with the difference in light intensity between the the lit road and the surrounding darkness. In effect, the pupil compensates for all that light and cannot see anything around it. Not a big issue in an urban lit environment, but if you ever get out to drive in the countryside at night, it can get pretty scary and quite honestly, dangerous. Paradoxically, when I wanted to see better at night I would pull the fuse out of my inner projectors.

I know you want the quad setup, but both for installation and visibility reasons I would advise against it on your vehicle. Keep in mind that a single pair of S2K projectors will already blow my MH1 quad setup out of the water ... adding more light not only adds more parts you have to pay for and can potentially fail, but most importantly, it will not ameliorate your ability to see.

Thanks Serge, i know you have a lot of experience with retrofiting these things thats why i wanted to ask you first. S2000 low beams it is,,now i have to find someone in ny to do it ,,,email bjorn at at customlightz twice but now answer. Any ideas about fog lights? i currently have hids on low beams and fogs 5000k. i would need new bulbs for the s2000 correct?