Engine choice for new Yukon XL Denali (best reliability for next 3 years)

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killjoy

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I’ll chime in to say that the 5.3 gets an undeserved bad rap. I’d drive one before you make a decision.

I had same negative preconceived notions . Then I drove one and came away impressed.
The 5.3L has plenty of power. Drivability and towing... impression/feel... is not the issue. Very few of us are towing a 8k lb trailer with an SUV. If you are towing something that heavy, you'd be better off with a 5th wheel hitch on a pickup.

My 2021 has < 17k miles and has stranded me 3x all requiring a flat bed tow to the dealer. 2x for failed DFM lifters (that are still POS despite dealer assurances the problem if fixed)... and a failed fuel pump control module.
The 6.2 has the same issues with DFM lifters and fuel pump control modules as the 5.3, plus bad bearings.

Going with the 3.0 diesel avoids those problems, but if you're keeping it forever, you'll need to deal with oil pump belts, fuel pumps, etc. You also have to be willing to deal with a diesel - not the best for cold climates (e.g. starting, remote start idling).

At least with the GM pickups, you can opt for the cheap turbo 4 to avoid all the DFM BS. With the fullsize SUVs though, it feels like your choice is among 3 bad options... unless you wanted a diesel from the start.

I've had more than 2 dozen GM 5.3s since the late 1990s. Today's 5.3L engine is not the same as those in the past. All of the fuel efficiency BS is reducing reliability just so you can get an extra 0.2 MPG on the freeway and make the greenies happy.
 

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Diesel all the way. Additional maintenance is minimal, Def is no big thing. I have a Burban with 24,000 miles with zero issues. I am 76 years old and have owned muscle cars, pick ups, sedans and high performance boats. This baby Duramax rates as one of the sweetest engines I have ever owned!

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Since very few have actually addressed your question let me attempt to. You seem to prioritize not getting stranded and there hasn’t been anyone so far being let down by the 3.0, stranded on the side of the road. On the other hand there are many stories of 6.2’s crapping out and leaving people stranded.

Aside from that data point, the miles you drive make the diesel a perfect fit. They are made for eating miles, you will be in the minority of buyers who will actually be economically way ahead with the diesel due to fuel economy being nearly double of the 6.2. Quite honestly I think in your situation the 3.0 is really a no brainer.

Whatever you end up choosing: happy motoring!
 

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Since very few have actually addressed your question let me attempt to. You seem to prioritize not getting stranded and there hasn’t been anyone so far being let down by the 3.0, stranded on the side of the road. On the other hand there are many stories of 6.2’s crapping out and leaving people stranded.

Aside from that data point, the miles you drive make the diesel a perfect fit. They are made for eating miles, you will be in the minority of buyers who will actually be economically way ahead with the diesel due to fuel economy being nearly double of the 6.2. Quite honestly I think in your situation the 3.0 is really a no brainer.

Whatever you end up choosing: happy motoring!
nailed it
 

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I have to agree with @Tinbadtin

However, I remember reading that they were planning on putting the 2.7L Turbo 4 in the SUVs as the base engine option. If that was available, I would probably max out a Yukon XL SLT, forgo the Denali package and stick with the turbo 4.

Been driving my Dad's 22 Silverado around a couple months with that engine. I have to admit I am impressed by its response, power, and fuel economy. Its about on par with the 5.3 in terms of city driving economy but I think it does a lot better on the highway. And the Gen 3 8 speed transm9ssion is really nice.
 

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I've recently been posting about GMC configurator issues as I try to get the Denali Reserve package (for its SuperCruise, alongside other features) as well as the Premium Capability Package with Active Response 4WD (included with Denali Reserve in MY2024, but separate option for MY2025, with configuration difficulty alongside Duramax).

Starting a new thread here to request advice on Yukon XL engine choice from more experienced members --- between the 6.2L V8 and the 3.0L Duramax (both LM2 on a new-on-lot MY2024 or LZO on new-to-order MY2025 are options). The 5.3L V8 is not under consideration.

Our situation is that we are a one-car family, and this would be our only car for our family of seven. We live in a semi-rural / rural mountain area, with all that typically involves:

(1) Elevation of 4000-5000 feet
(2) Annual snowfall of 3-6 feet
(3) Private gravel roads for the last few miles to our house until paved county roads
(4) Only one GM (Chevy / GMC) dealer / service-center within 1-2 hours of home
(5) Lots of daytime driving, but also significant nighttime driving (it gets dark at 5pm in winter)
(6) Monthly mileage of approximately 3000 miles (yes: 30,000+ miles per year), most of that on highways or rural county roads with little stop-and-go

Also, please assume:

(1) Frequent oil/filter changes
(2) All recommended maintenance done on schedule
(3) Disable of auto-start/stop technology

The high mileage is a particular cause of concern for us, given that there doesn't appear to be any bullet-proof engine for a new Yukon (XL) --- they all have different (seemingly early) failure modes. This post looks for advice on which is the one that might best meet our needs.

Due to concerns over engine reliability, as well as how quickly new safety features are being introduced for cars now-a-days, we plan to replace this Yukon XL after 2--3 years (with a new large SUV, probably another Yukon XL), since that would be 60,000 -- 90,000 miles.

We figure that all warranties will expire (in our case) based on mileage, rather than calendar years, so we view them as follows (when driving 30k+ miles per year):

(1) Bumper-to-bumper (@ 36k miles): Good for 1-year for us
(2) Powertrain (@ 60k miles): Good for 2-years for us
(3) GM Protection Plan (8-yr/100k Platinum): Good for 3-year for us

I'll be purchasing the above GM Protection Plan at the same time as the SUV (not necessarily from same dealer, though, as I've read on this forum which dealers often most aggressive pricing for GMPP).

Our significant concern is to avoid ever being stranded --- this is particularly top-of-mind for my wife, when she's driving kids around when I'm not also in the car. That's the reason we have in mind to only keep the car for three years, so we'll at least have some GMPP left for that third year.

Even so, I've read about very long (180 day?!?) wait times for engine replacement even under original warranty (especially with 6.2L), which gives us anxiety, as there are very few available loaner cars that will accommodate all of us safely. That's also driving the push for us to plan / budget for early replacement with another new SUV after just a few years.

But more than anything, we want to think hard about the gas vs. Duramax engine choice, given recent reports of the NHTSA investigation into the 870k 6.2L V8 engines. If reliability were the same, we'd definitely get the 6.2L V8, as my wife prefers that (given past familiarity with gas engines) and she'll be doing more of the driving (for kids' pickup/dropoff/activities). But reliability is going to probably end up driving this choice more than anything.

Please completely ignore the following factors in engine preference:

(1) Resale value between different engines (ie, cost)
(2) Fuel mileage between different engines (ie, cost)
(3) Towing benefits of Duramax (we tow very occasionally to never)
(4) Longer-term engine reliability (ie, above 150k miles, since we plan to replace at 3-years, well before that mileage)

Along with your opinion on engine choice, I'd really appreciate if you could provide an explanation for why you think that way. Finally, if you vote for the Duramax, please let me know if you have a preference between the LM2 vs. LZ0.

Thanks so much for reading such a long post, and providing your thoughts.
I would recommend a normally aspirated V8 engine that uses gasoline, not a diesel.
 

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Diesel, period. You’ll want / need the torque for all your passengers. You’ll love the range as well as love the opportunity to add a larger diesel tank. Not sure if GM has incorporated it yet but there is / was an option for a Jake / diesel / engine brake to make going down the mountain a breeze.
 

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