There was a new guy there last month trying to diagnose a trans problem where he had done a 4l80 conversion and was having problems with it not shifting into first but the way he stated it, he said the truck "starts in second" and I could understand what he was talking about, but the regulars thought he meant he was starting his engine in second gear. They just kept hassling him and harrassing him and asking him why he was stupid enough to start his truck in gear and he kept trying to explain but it was like they were in different worlds talking different languages. I finally explained to the idiots in very simple words but it was hard because the boneheads could only see it their way. After that, there wasn't another post from the idiots in the thread, no help, nothing. They just disappeared so they could go find the next person to harass. Like they were out just looking for someone to jump. It was the dudes first post too. I doubt if he stayed around.