Expedition Max to Yukon XL?

[DontTaseMeBro]

Thank you for posting this. My wife and I are going through the same decision. We recently sold our Expedition Max that we absolutely loved... when it wasn't in the shop. We ended up selling it after our freshly rebuilt transmission overheated pulling this pop up on our way to South Dakota and left us on the side of the highway. It was the last straw.

So now we're on the hunt and really like the Yukon's but have some concerns including the "same" transmission as our Expy.

We're really considering the 3.0 Duramax and love the Midnight Blue Color.

Must Haves:
Max Tow Package
Adaptive Cruise Control (Does this include the hands free driving?)

Wants:
Middle bench
Rear Entertainment

It's nice to hear that you're happy with your decision, hopefully we can make the jump soon.

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They have the sam trans, but the programming is vastly different IMO. The 10 speed on our Yukon hasn’t seen higher than 207F on a steep grade at 100F+ while towing. The Expy has seen over 250F.

That should tell you right there which one will last longer. I believe it’s because the Yukon has an N/A engine. Also, I bet it has a low temp trans thermostat.

Dmax is a great engine to have in the Yukon. Hands free driving - are you talking about the lane keep assist + adaptive cruise or are you referring to the autonomous Super Cruise? The former comes with lane keep assist if you get adaptive. The latter is a subscription based option that can only be optioned on the Denali or Denali Ultimate.

 

[JayceeP]

The lane keeping/centering in my 2021 F150 Lariat is way better than what my 2024 Yukon XL SLT has. It wanders way too much and will go all the way to the lines. The F150 maintains center, and if it wasn’t for the steering wheel sensors, it would be 100% hands-free highway driving if staying in 1 lane.

 

[ChuckPeazy]

They have the sam trans, but the programming is vastly different IMO. The 10 speed on our Yukon hasn’t seen higher than 207F on a steep grade at 100F+ while towing. The Expy has seen over 250F.

That should tell you right there which one will last longer. I believe it’s because the Yukon has an N/A engine. Also, I bet it has a low temp trans thermostat.

Dmax is a great engine to have in the Yukon. Hands free driving - are you talking about the lane keep assist + adaptive cruise or are you referring to the autonomous Super Cruise? The former comes with lane keep assist if you get adaptive. The latter is a subscription based option that can only be optioned on the Denali or Denali Ultimate.

I think I’m curious about the Super Cruise.

This is the one I’m currently looking at. It’s a Denali Ultimate although it looks like it’s a package for MY 2022 and not a separate trim like the current ones

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

I think I’m curious about the Super Cruise.

This is the one I’m currently looking at. It’s a Denali Ultimate although it looks like it’s a package for MY 2022 and not a separate trim like the current ones

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Correct. When they turned it into a trim for MY2023, they threw in a few exclusive exterior and interior things that weren’t previously offered with the Ultimate package.

 

[Polo08816]

Thank you for posting this. My wife and I are going through the same decision. We recently sold our Expedition Max that we absolutely loved... when it wasn't in the shop. We ended up selling it after our freshly rebuilt transmission overheated pulling this pop up on our way to South Dakota and left us on the side of the highway. It was the last straw.

So now we're on the hunt and really like the Yukon's but have some concerns including the "same" transmission as our Expy.

We're really considering the 3.0 Duramax and love the Midnight Blue Color.

Must Haves:
Max Tow Package
Adaptive Cruise Control (Does this include the hands free driving?)

Wants:
Middle bench
Rear Entertainment

It's nice to hear that you're happy with your decision, hopefully we can make the jump soon.

View attachment 433886

They have the sam trans, but the programming is vastly different IMO. The 10 speed on our Yukon hasn’t seen higher than 207F on a steep grade at 100F+ while towing. The Expy has seen over 250F.

That should tell you right there which one will last longer. I believe it’s because the Yukon has an N/A engine. Also, I bet it has a low temp trans thermostat.

Dmax is a great engine to have in the Yukon. Hands free driving - are you talking about the lane keep assist + adaptive cruise or are you referring to the autonomous Super Cruise? The former comes with lane keep assist if you get adaptive. The latter is a subscription based option that can only be optioned on the Denali or Denali Ultimate.

I believe the cooling system design for the Ford and GM are different for the 10 speed transmission. I believe outside of the F150 Raptor and Police Responder trims, the Ford 10R80 uses a liquid to liquid heat exchanger for the transmission oil and engine coolant. GM appears to use a air to liquid heat exchanger for the transmission:

Oil Cooler for 2022 GMC Yukon XL | GMPartsDirect.com

www.gmpartsdirect.com

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

I believe the cooling system design for the Ford and GM are different for the 10 speed transmission. I believe outside of the F150 Raptor and Police Responder trims, the Ford 10R80 uses a liquid to liquid heat exchanger for the transmission oil and engine coolant. GM appears to use a air to liquid heat exchanger for the transmission:

Oil Cooler for 2022 GMC Yukon XL | GMPartsDirect.com

www.gmpartsdirect.com

Nice, further hammers my point home.

 

[TahoeFL2017]

Alright, well I pulled the trigger and picked up a 2022 Yukon XL Denali in Midnight Blue Metallic over a Dark Walnut/Very Ash Gray interior. 43k miles on the odometer. All the options except Super Cruise and air suspension. I wanted to get one with air suspension, but this was too good of a deal to pass up.

My 2 week ownership experience may be limited but I can tell you this is one hell of a ride compared to my 2020 Expedition. Feels like a bank vault on wheels, soaks up the bumps over crappy pavement like it’s not there. Better interior, more technology, and man, the 6.2 is one fabulous engine.

Fingers crossed it gives us many years of reliability(I’m very well aware of all the engine issues, the one in ours was replaced 13k miles ago).

Last but not least, the seats. Dunno why everyone keeps bagging on them, they feel fantastic. Even my buddy commented on how they felt better to him compared to the Expeditions. Back when I had the 2022 HC Silverado, I thought those seats were too firm. These don’t feel the same as those seats at all.

Anyways, thanks all for the feedback. Here are some pics.

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I'm looking for the same thing for the wife, do you mind sharing how much you paid?

I'm trying to be in the 50k range with the 6.2, so wondering how realistic that is.

Out the door under 60k is the goal.