OEM Nav vs. Pioneer AVH-4100NEX

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$839 installed sounds like a good deal to me on the 4100. The adapters and stuff you need add a couple hundred. I would have HAPPILY paid someone $50 to install mine for me. For reference best buy will charge you $160 for install. $100 for the unit and $60 for steering wheel controls. So $50 for everything is money WELL spent IMO.

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As for eating up a ton of data I haven't noticed it much. I guess if you used the maps constantly it might get up there. On a day to day basis I doubt I use much more data then I was before. I have only had it in like 2.5 weeks so we will see when I pay the next cell phone bill.
 

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The 4100 does allow you to add Nav in the future if you don't like using your phones Nav.
 
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$839 installed sounds like a good deal to me on the 4100. The adapters and stuff you need add a couple hundred. I would have HAPPILY paid someone $50 to install mine for me. For reference best buy will charge you $160 for install. $100 for the unit and $60 for steering wheel controls. So $50 for everything is money WELL spent IMO.

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As for eating up a ton of data I haven't noticed it much. I guess if you used the maps constantly it might get up there. On a day to day basis I doubt I use much more data then I was before. I have only had it in like 2.5 weeks so we will see when I pay the next cell phone bill.


how abut audio quality with the stock bose amp/speaker setup? any distortion at loud volumes?

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Oh yeah there is absolutely distortion at high volume using the stock speakers and this HU. I also installed 4 10s when I did the HU so trying to have the stock speakers keep up with 4 subs was futile. I ended up replacing all my door speakers this past weekend. Now my truck sounds pretty awesome.
 
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Oh yeah there is absolutely distortion at high volume using the stock speakers and this HU. I also installed 4 10s when I did the HU so trying to have the stock speakers keep up with 4 subs was futile. I ended up replacing all my door speakers this past weekend. Now my truck sounds pretty awesome.

grrr.... what speakers did you upgrade to? still run off the stock Bose amp? I just want it to sound good not great just good:Good or Bad:
 

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The only thing I dont like about it is if you get on a back road with no signal there goes your nav.

When you say distortion at high volumes, are those high volumes higher than you could go with the stock radio? Or if you get to the same DB level as the stock HU it still distorts?
 

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I ended up picking up some JL C2650 and JL C2650X components and 2 ways.

I experienced distortion at listening levels comparable to when it had the factory HU. I tuned the new HU to 38 for max volume as this is the max volume I could go before my SMD distortion detector found distortion. I couldn't make it up past low 20s before the factory speakers sounded like shit. Since the distortion wasn't from the signal it had to be from excess power.
 

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Wow that kinda blows. Wonder why it distorts and makes factory speakers sound so bad at low levels. I know most seem to hate it but I dont think the stock bose system sounds all that bad. I mean its not some hard hitting aftermarket deal but still not bad.
 
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I'm thinking about going OEM to not have the audio distortion issue. does that seem like the right way to go?
 

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Keep in mind I added 4 10s to my truck so I was trying to get the stock bose to keep up. Yes it distorted at what I would consider normalish listening volumes I was using the eq and what not to try and bump the highs up some. While the radio doesn't send a distorted signal until volume 38, I have no idea what all boosts to the signal was happening with the EQ in the pioneer deck.

After installing the JLs and putting a 4x100 amp on those the sound is just crazy good and loud. The system is tuned for 38 max listening volume but there is no way in hell you could actually pull that off. I took about a 45 minute drive yesterday and started with my volume at 25. I had it down to about 15 by the time the drive was over. Maybe my ears are just getting old!!!!

I think you will still be pleased with a 4100. There are an incredible number of eq settings and source boosters and god knows what else in that radio. I am pretty confident you could install it with the factory speakers and set it up to sound awesome. In my case I added 4 subs getting a combined 3500 watts. The bose was never going to keep up with that.
 

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