Vehicle build sheet

[MJenn76]

It’s OK to get one of the first ones, just not one of the first, first ones!

Purposely waited for phase 4 of the rollout before I ordered... that and wanted the air ride and power console

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[Kpwweb]

Use your state's lemon law, and then buy a Honda. Then, you won't have to fear for your family, or have to worry about being stranded anywhere.

or a Toyota, or a .... They ALL have issues. TSBs galore. (And this coming from a Toyota, former Nissan, Ford, Honda, Oldsmobile, Buick, Chevrolet, etc owner/driver.).

With the complexities of today’s vehicles, 22+ computers and more lines of code than a commercial airplane (and we see what has happened with those) it is partly a miracle we can get anywhere.

“I’m from the government and I’m here to help you....”

 

[Joseph Garcia]

or a Toyota, or a .... They ALL have issues. TSBs galore. (And this coming from a Toyota, former Nissan, Ford, Honda, Oldsmobile, Buick, Chevrolet, etc owner/driver.).

With the complexities of today’s vehicles, 22+ computers and more lines of code than a commercial airplane (and we see what has happened with those) it is partly a miracle we can get anywhere.

“I’m from the government and I’m here to help you....”

This is true, and more tech and other more sophisticated electronics and control systems will have issues. However, my 2015 Honda has only 25 TBSs in 5 years.

 

[OR VietVet]

This is true, and more tech and other more sophisticated electronics and control systems will have issues. However, my 2015 Honda has only 25 TBSs in 5 years.

Yea, and TSB's are pattern failures and not recalls.

 

[Stbentoak]

or a Toyota, or a .... They ALL have issues.

With the complexities of today’s vehicles, 22+ computers and more lines of code than a commercial airplane (and we see what has happened with those) it is partly a miracle we can get anywhere.
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Also why extended warranties start to make sense....

 

[Fireman591]

Use your state's lemon law, and then buy a Honda. Then, you won't have to fear for your family, or have to worry about being stranded anywhere.

I have a Honda Pilot but we love the size of the Tahoe. I sure wish Honda would join the body on frame SUV game. Their vehicles for the most part are very reliable.

 

[Fireman591]

or a Toyota, or a .... They ALL have issues. TSBs galore. (And this coming from a Toyota, former Nissan, Ford, Honda, Oldsmobile, Buick, Chevrolet, etc owner/driver.).

With the complexities of today’s vehicles, 22+ computers and more lines of code than a commercial airplane (and we see what has happened with those) it is partly a miracle we can get anywhere.

“I’m from the government and I’m here to help you....”

I agree but valve springs have been around longer than any of us. You would think something as simple as a valve spring could be reliable these days. Most likely GM buying from some 3rd world country that pays someone a dollar a week to pump out springs to pump up their profit level. This problem with the GM V8 engines needs to be a recall and not just a TSB. Waiting for failure is not an option and GM is going to get someone killed when their customer loses engine power at the wrong time and causes an accident.

 

[swathdiver]

I am not going to risk the safety of my family due to GM rolling the dice on bad springs. Having an engine come apart at a bad time is not worth the risk. They have a major problem and instead of doing a recall they are waiting for folks vehicles to break down and will fix them as needed.Flat out a piss poor way of handling this by GM. I did not spend 65k waiting for my engine to come apart. 90 TSBs and 4 recalls is enough to know these vehicles were rushed to market. Thank God Michigan has a great lemon law. I already got the ball rolling with GM today. Hopefully I don't have to go the lawyer route but if so the lawyer fees are covered under Michigan's law.

False premises abound. Everyday life has its risks and nobody is going to die if a valve spring breaks, gimme a break. It's also foolish to think that GM rolled the dice on bad valve springs, sales would plummet if folks thought these were unsafe and or unreliable vehicles. 6.2s have always been ******* their valve springs and in general one of them breaks on cylinder seven or eight at about 160K miles and eleven years of age. That's what I've seen on this forum anyway. Hundreds of thousands of people will never have a problem, only those that dog the motors and don't take care of them.

All the engineering and testing, thinking of how their customers will use their vehicles, nobody can think of everything but the customers sure do discover the weak points quickly, especially with these millennials coming of age and driving now!

 

[Fireman591]

False premises abound. Everyday life has its risks and nobody is going to die if a valve spring breaks, gimme a break. It's also foolish to think that GM rolled the dice on bad valve springs, sales would plummet if folks thought these were unsafe and or unreliable vehicles. 6.2s have always been ******* their valve springs and in general one of them breaks on cylinder seven or eight at about 160K miles and eleven years of age. That's what I've seen on this forum anyway. Hundreds of thousands of people will never have a problem, only those that dog the motors and don't take care of them.

All the engineering and testing, thinking of how their customers will use their vehicles, nobody can think of everything but the customers sure do discover the weak points quickly, especially with these millennials coming of age and driving now!

Sales are going to plummet along with the resale value of these engine time bombs. If you think folks are not taking this seriously jump onto the corvette, camero and silverado forums. I already filed a complaint with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. I urge others to do the same. The more bad press GM gets on these failing engines the more motivation they will have to recall these engines and replace all the springs. I have driven millions of miles and have never broken a valve spring. Many of these are failing with under 1000 miles on the odometer. I think you are not getting the concept that GM knows and knew about the problem and still allowed dealers to sell units with these engines. Their solution is sweep it under the rug and just repair the poor folks who broke down with their brand new vehicles. Not a risk i am willing to take and with my Tahoe already out of service 30+ days due to other faulty parts I have until August under our lemon law to get my money back or a replacement. Today I officially started that process

 

[Fireman591]

False premises abound. Everyday life has its risks and nobody is going to die if a valve spring breaks, gimme a break. It's also foolish to think that GM rolled the dice on bad valve springs, sales would plummet if folks thought these were unsafe and or unreliable vehicles. 6.2s have always been ******* their valve springs and in general one of them breaks on cylinder seven or eight at about 160K miles and eleven years of age. That's what I've seen on this forum anyway. Hundreds of thousands of people will never have a problem, only those that dog the motors and don't take care of them.

All the engineering and testing, thinking of how their customers will use their vehicles, nobody can think of everything but the customers sure do discover the weak points quickly, especially with these millennials coming of age and driving now!

https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/243709-gm-service-bulletin-for-faulty-valve-springs/