Growing up doesn't have to suck

[randeez]

Back when that valve spring broke, I couldn't wait to diagnose it so instead of getting in bed, I made a U-turn and headed to the garage. I was out there at 11PM in my boxers taking the valve cover off.

How'd the pushrod look in those boxers

 

[iamdub]

How'd the pushrod look in those boxers

Straight, thick and black. Barely fit the hole.

 

[iamdub]

Sooo... I don't like the idea of the plastic locking ring on the fuel rail inlet. Also, all Dorman could tell me about the fitting is that they've "been tested up to 15% ethanol on long running trials". The fittings have Viton O-rings which is fine. But I was trying to ascertain the particular "plastic" the body is made of. I really think they'd be fine, but I'm not willing to risk anything on it. So, I dug around more and ran across this:




It's a stainless braided (Teflon?) hose for a GTO, designed as an upgraded direct replacement for the factory part. There are two part numbers, #651120 and #651121 that have identical specs. One is for the LS1 GTO and the other for the LS2. I emailed Russell asking for clarification. It may just be a difference in length and I asked them for those specs as they're not listed anywhere. I think this would be a clean, plug-and-play solution with OEM-style connections. I'd get some extra fuel line clips to have them on all the connections. I'd probably fab up a sheet metal bracket to use one of the studs on the upper bellhousing bolts so I'd just have to get a metric nut to attach it. For wiring, I'll either run my own circuit or, since I don't like extra unused/abandoned wires and plugs, I may repurpose the AFM VLOM circuit since it's conveniently right there at the firewall. Just cut off the VLOM plug and splice the Ethanol sensor harness to three of the wires, then repin accordingly at the PCM. No additional wiring and it'll all be like a factory design.


The pondering and research continues...

 

[89Suburban]

Sooo... I don't like the idea of the plastic locking ring on the fuel rail inlet. Also, all Dorman could tell me about the fitting is that they've "been tested up to 15% ethanol on long running trials". The fittings have Viton O-rings which is fine. But I was trying to ascertain the particular "plastic" the body is made of. I really think they'd be fine, but I'm not willing to risk anything on it. So, I dug around more and ran across this:

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It's a stainless braided (Teflon?) hose for a GTO, designed as an upgraded direct replacement for the factory part. There are two part numbers, #651120 and #651121 that have identical specs. One is for the LS1 GTO and the other for the LS2. I emailed Russell asking for clarification. It may just be a difference in length and I asked them for those specs as they're not listed anywhere. I think this would be a clean, plug-and-play solution with OEM-style connections. I'd get some extra fuel line clips to have them on all the connections. I'd probably fab up a sheet metal bracket to use one of the studs on the upper bellhousing bolts so I'd just have to get a metric nut to attach it. For wiring, I'll either run my own circuit or, since I don't like extra unused/abandoned wires and plugs, I may repurpose the AFM VLOM circuit since it's conveniently right there at the firewall. Just cut off the VLOM plug and splice the Ethanol sensor harness to three of the wires, then repin accordingly at the PCM. No additional wiring and it'll all be like a factory design.


The pondering and research continues...

 

[pwtr02ss]

Straight, thick and black. Barely fit the hole.

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Exactly how I like 'em.

 

[kbuskill]

Sooo... I don't like the idea of the plastic locking ring on the fuel rail inlet. Also, all Dorman could tell me about the fitting is that they've "been tested up to 15% ethanol on long running trials". The fittings have Viton O-rings which is fine. But I was trying to ascertain the particular "plastic" the body is made of. I really think they'd be fine, but I'm not willing to risk anything on it. So, I dug around more and ran across this:

View attachment 397294


It's a stainless braided (Teflon?) hose for a GTO, designed as an upgraded direct replacement for the factory part. There are two part numbers, #651120 and #651121 that have identical specs. One is for the LS1 GTO and the other for the LS2. I emailed Russell asking for clarification. It may just be a difference in length and I asked them for those specs as they're not listed anywhere. I think this would be a clean, plug-and-play solution with OEM-style connections. I'd get some extra fuel line clips to have them on all the connections. I'd probably fab up a sheet metal bracket to use one of the studs on the upper bellhousing bolts so I'd just have to get a metric nut to attach it. For wiring, I'll either run my own circuit or, since I don't like extra unused/abandoned wires and plugs, I may repurpose the AFM VLOM circuit since it's conveniently right there at the firewall. Just cut off the VLOM plug and splice the Ethanol sensor harness to three of the wires, then repin accordingly at the PCM. No additional wiring and it'll all be like a factory design.


The pondering and research continues...

Still waiting on the parts list... no rush. Keep up the good work.

 

[randeez]

Straight, thick and black. Barely fit the hole.

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[iamdub]

Still waiting on the parts list... no rush. Keep up the good work.

That shall come to fruition within the following pages.

 

[iamdub]

Sooo... I don't like the idea of the plastic locking ring on the fuel rail inlet. Also, all Dorman could tell me about the fitting is that they've "been tested up to 15% ethanol on long running trials". The fittings have Viton O-rings which is fine. But I was trying to ascertain the particular "plastic" the body is made of. I really think they'd be fine, but I'm not willing to risk anything on it. So, I dug around more and ran across this:

View attachment 397294


It's a stainless braided (Teflon?) hose for a GTO, designed as an upgraded direct replacement for the factory part. There are two part numbers, #651120 and #651121 that have identical specs. One is for the LS1 GTO and the other for the LS2. I emailed Russell asking for clarification. It may just be a difference in length and I asked them for those specs as they're not listed anywhere. I think this would be a clean, plug-and-play solution with OEM-style connections. I'd get some extra fuel line clips to have them on all the connections. I'd probably fab up a sheet metal bracket to use one of the studs on the upper bellhousing bolts so I'd just have to get a metric nut to attach it. For wiring, I'll either run my own circuit or, since I don't like extra unused/abandoned wires and plugs, I may repurpose the AFM VLOM circuit since it's conveniently right there at the firewall. Just cut off the VLOM plug and splice the Ethanol sensor harness to three of the wires, then repin accordingly at the PCM. No additional wiring and it'll all be like a factory design.


The pondering and research continues...

Russell/Edelbrock replied: From end of straight fitting to center of 90°, the 651120 is 12 1/4" and the 651121 is 11 3/8". First off, I don't really see why it was worth making two otherwise identical flex hoses with less than an inch difference. You'd think splitting the difference and just making one 11 3/4" hose would accommodate all. Anyway, I think I should get the longer one cuz, in my Universe, stuff would fall out just so that I'd be 7/8" short if I didn't.

 

[randeez]

Russell/Edelbrock replied: From end of straight fitting to center of 90°, the 651120 is 12 1/4" and the 651121 is 11 3/8". First off, I don't really see why it was worth making two otherwise identical flex hoses with less than an inch difference. You'd think splitting the difference and just making one 11 3/4" hose would accommodate all. Anyway, I think I should get the longer one cuz, in my Universe, stuff would fall out just so that I'd be 7/8" short if I didn't.

i guarantee you some old as **** would order the wrong one and complain his bright yellow GTO with a showroom quality stock engine bay has been tainted by the extra 15/16" slack that it has provided and that he will never buy another edelbrock product for as long as they live