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Tire weight differences are not great enough to make a tire choice on that premise. Choose wheel > choose type of tire (a/t, 4 season, etc), > choose brand based on quality of tire (noise, handling, wear, etc).

Obviously no wheel is going to be lighter that the aluminum hybrid 18s as they are made with weight reduction being the priority.

I had 5/8inch billet aluminum custom built slide in spacers that Robbie lent me that I used on my 22s with a 285 tire and the rear wheel sat almost flush with the fender.

I'll get some pics when I get to my home computer tomorrow (I'm out of town tonight) if you want me to. But a high quality 1"six lug slide in spacer is what you'd be looking for.
 
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Billet spacers http://mcmotorsports.com/

They custom build them to your specs. I rocked these for quite a while. Quality stuff!

:cheers:

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Tire weight differences are not great enough to make a tire choice on that premise. Choose wheel > choose type of tire (a/t, 4 season, etc), > choose brand based on quality of tire (noise, handling, wear, etc).

Obviously no wheel is going to be lighter that the aluminum hybrid 18s as they are made with weight reduction being the priority.

I had 5/8inch billet aluminum custom built slide in spacers that Robbie lent me that I used on my 22s with a 285 tire and the rear wheel sat almost flush with the fender.

I'll get some pics when I get to my home computer tomorrow (I'm out of town tonight) if you want me to. But a high quality 1"six lug slide in spacer is what you'd be looking for.

tire choice does matter because if i'm rolling 18s, i don't want street tires as it's too conservative (ie stock look so why bother kinda thing). for my aesthetic proclivities, if factory 18s, i need some more flavor --> AT tread --> markedly heavier tires.

i think what i was able to figure out for myself with the big help of you fellas is that the weight delta between the 22s and 24s is immaterial. it then comes down to ride quality which makes justifying the 24s easier since i had kinda assumed the 24s were that much heavier than the dub deuces.

so then it comes down to anecdotal thoughts. ean says his 26s ride the same as stock which might be a bit of stretch. soul and felix went from 24s to 22s, happy with the move. i drive solo. no fam to haul. majority city/suburb driving. just say no to flat faced wheels kinda dude. :D

anyone have the stock tire/wheel weight value handy?
 
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Stock 22 (OEM) with a 285/45/22 Dueler Alenza H/L is about 81lbs mounted, balanced, and holding air.
 
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So the 295/30/24 proxes with the 45ish lbs 24s about 5lbs unsprung heavier than the smaller 22s.
 
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What's the widest tire size I can shoe onto my stock 18s? Mind you I will be adding 1" spacers to have them sit flush to fenders.
 

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What's the widest tire size I can shoe onto my stock 18s? Mind you I will be adding 1" spacers to have them sit flush to fenders.

You'd be just fine with 305's I'd think. I don't have the extra 1" spacer and I really don't rub at all unless the above mentioned rarity...

You also need to think about the sidewall height. Are you keeping the overall circumference the same? I did when I swapped the 18's for 22's. I used a tire calculator to help me out.
http://m.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos
 

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Felix is running A/T 33x12.50R22 tires on his avy (don't know how to translate that into ***/xx/xx) ... I think if you use those as your reference (given that you plan to put spacers) in the tire calculator you should be good.

Someone might wanna double check my logic here.

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Also this calculator gives you a little more detail than the discount tire one: http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

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Wait nvm, Felix has a leveling kit up front.

Sorries.

Just go of your stock tire size and see if there's a 305 tire that is close in overall circumference..
 
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The stock 265/65/18 low rolling resistance bridgestones weigh 40lbs each, FYI.

It looks to me the best wider than stock choice are 285/60/18s and the Toyo Proxes ST IIs report at 40.2lbs each. The Toyos have a much squarer edge which I like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uf3ng7mIyU

So i'm guessing the stock 18" wheels weigh ~30lbs.

Stock wheel/tire setup = ~70lbs per corner

-285/60/18 53.8lbs (AT tires) + 18" factory wheels = ~84lbs
-305/40/22 44.3lbs + 22" aftermarket wheels = ~83.3lbs
-295/30/24 38.7lbs + 24" aftermarket wheels = ~83.7lbs
-285/60/18 40.2 lbs + 18" factory wheels = ~70lbs

So 22 or 24 inch aftermarket setups add about 13-15lbs of unsprung weight per corner or ~60lbs of static fat. You effectively cut out over 3" of sidewall going to 24s from stock.
 
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My 33x12.50R22 is a little wider then a 305. It's also a M/T (not A/T). Plus I do have a leveling kit both up front and in the rear (2.5/1.5). I'd go with a 305 even in 18's if you were to stay with stock rims and just make sure the overall height of the tire is around 32.5 and definitely under 33" as you will rub if not. The offset of stock rims is in your favor for rubbing the least amount. If you go aftermarket and want meatier tires then stay away from negative offsets.
 

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